"The deepest UFO secret isn't the craft, it's the cover-up," Dylan Borland tells Jesse Michels
The cover-up runs deeper.
A UFO hovering above classified files. Image by Cybernews.
- Dylan Borland claims alleged UFO secrecy centers on cover-ups, criminal conduct, and money, not just recovered craft.
- Borland and Matthew Brown argue officials have hidden information about non-human intelligence from Congress and the public.
- Borland says intelligence agencies may be misusing classification rules to conceal embarrassment, wrongdoing, and financial interests.
- The claims add pressure for UFO disclosure, but key allegations remain unresolved and publicly unverified.
Key Takeaways by nexos.ai, reviewed by Cybernews staff.
Another UFO whistleblower says the biggest secret isn't alien craft but the lengths authorities allegedly went to keep them hidden. Dylan Borland has hinted that humans may not be “fully running the show."
Borland is a former US Air Force geospatial intelligence specialist and federal whistleblower who gained national attention for testifying before Congress in September 2025 about Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs).
Since then, Borland has appeared on several prominent UFO-focused podcasts, including Weaponized with Jeremy Corbell and, more recently, with Jesse Michels, where he has expanded on his claims about alleged legacy programs, such as reverse-engineering alien technology and whistleblower retaliation.
Speaking on The American Alchemist podcast, Borland argued that the real secret is not recovered craft but the alleged crimes committed to keeping them hidden.
"The reason they're keeping this a secret is because it's so criminal, so messed up, so much money."
He claims shame, alleged criminal conduct, and financial interests, not national security, are driving the secrecy and that "it is embarrassing."
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Backing up another whistleblower
Matthew Brown, a fellow whistleblower and author of an 11-page dossier on the Pentagon's alleged UFO retrieval program, made similar claims last week.
"I think the biggest shocks will come, if disclosure comes, from realizing what we have done to maintain the secrecy," Brown said.
He also claimed that humanity is not alone and says information about non-human intelligent life should belong to everyone, not remain classified for national security reasons.
"We're not even alone on our own planet in terms of sharing it with other sentient intelligent life,” Brown contended.
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And even if Borland is noticeably more guarded when it comes to discussing cover-ups, he still remains open to raising questions about whether government insiders know more than they’re willing to admit.
With these crucial avowals resurfacing from Brown, the narrative grows stronger when others echo similar sentiments, and Borland fits that bill nicely.
Whistleblowers start to edge forward
The crux of Borland's interview highlights how intelligence agencies are allegedly violating the very rules governing classified information.
"You cannot classify information for embarrassment, criminal activity, and financials. They're doing it."
He references longstanding claims surrounding alleged recovered craft and says public testimony has raised questions that remain unanswered.
Borland, too, expressed frustration that whistleblowers have stepped forward but believes little has changed.
"We came out. We stuck our necks out."
Host Jesse Michels said the strangest part is not the alleged crash retrieval story itself but why convincing evidence rarely surfaces despite smartphones and social media. Michels also floated the idea that the phenomenon itself could somehow influence secrecy.
"Is the non-human intelligence in control of the cover-up, too?" he asked Borland.
Borland answered with a very emphatic but illustrative couple of words – "absolutely yes," less guardedly this time.
"Humans aren't in charge"
When it comes to the notion of private institutions and/or governments keeping alien vessels for reverse-engineering or “national safety” concerns, Borland cautions that it's not safe to assume everything is squarely on our terms.
Borland says an official from the Intelligence Community Inspector General's office "extremely hinted" that humans might not be fully in control, excuse the oxymoron.
Understandably, Borland says he is careful about what he says publicly while suggesting certain questions reveal what officials may know.
Rather than revealing what he was told, Borland says people who already know classified information often betray themselves through the questions they ask.
"You can tell somebody knows something based on the questions they ask you," he explained cryptically.
He illustrated this with a hypothetical exchange: instead of asking what an alleged witness saw, an informed official would ask, "Who do you think is running this show?"
Host Michels pointed to David Grusch as an example, noting his whistleblower complaint was officially deemed "urgent and credible," yet many of his claims remain unresolved publicly.
Last year, Grusch alleged the US government has operated a secret, decades-long program to recover and study crashed UFOs, hidden from Congress and the public.
He claimed the government possesses craft of "non-human origin" and that multiple defense contractors have been involved in attempting to reverse-engineer the technology.
Borland emphasizes that he, Grusch, and other whistleblowers are trying to establish a factual baseline without making sensational claims.
"We're all trying to get this out and have a baseline and be respectful and not go crazy."
